Health Benefits of Clean Coffee

Welcome to the SYNC Your Life podcast episode #6 On this podcast, we will be diving into all things women’s hormones to help you learn how to live in alignment with your female physiology. Too many women are living with their check engine lights flashing. You know you feel “off” but no matter what you do, you can’t seem to have the energy, or lose the weight, or feel your best. This podcast exists to shed light on the important topic of healthy hormones and cycle syncing, to help you gain maximum energy in your life. 

In today’s episode, I’m confronting the topic of coffee. What is clean coffee versus traditional coffe, why the difference matters, and how your choice in coffee bean can affect your hormone health. 

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Welcome to the SYNC Your Life Podcast. I’m your host, Jenny Swisher, certified personal trainer, nutritionist, hormone health expert and girl mom, I believe all women should be able to understand how our bodies are designed to feel. And I teach you how to sync your lifestyle to your cycle to reach maximum energy. You deserve to feel your best and this podcast is going to teach you how. Let’s dive in!

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This podcast is sponsored by the SYNC Digital Course, to take the free hormone imbalance quiz to see what your symptoms could mean about your health. Visit sync.jennyswisher.com That’s sync s y n c dot Jenny swisher.com.

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Welcome Friends, I’m so excited that you’re here today to spend some time with me on the SYNC Your Life Podcast. This is your first time tuning in, I hope you’ll take some extra time to listen to some of our previous podcasts. But today, we’re really gonna dive into the topic of coffee. I just mentioned my coffee, and we’re gonna be talking about coffee. So this is something that is really near and dear to my heart. I’m a huge coffee lover. So as my husband, we’ve kind of taken it up as a hobby. Some people have, you know, a craft beer or fascination or whatever it might be for them. But for us it is coffee. And the story behind this is really one worth telling. Because I think there will most likely be women listening to this podcast, too, who think Wow, she’s she’s talking about me that sounds exactly like me. So what I wanted to do was just sort of share my my journey as it pertains to just caffeine and coffee and kind of where I started and where I am now. Because if there’s one question I get most often it is, you know, is coffee messing with my weight gain? Or is coffee messing with my hormone imbalance? Can I still drink coffee if I’ve been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue. So those are the three things that I hear most often as it pertains to coffee, and almost every woman that comes into my online course at some point or another asks me about caffeine. So I wanted to make sure we take some time here on the podcast to talk about it because it is that important.

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So my journey with this begins, you know, I feel like it’s kind of a craze nowadays for kids to just be into coffee. Like my husband taught high school for several several years. And you know, nowadays, when you go to a high school football game, or a basketball game, all the kids are carrying their Starbucks in their hand. And so that wasn’t the case, when I was when I was growing up. I wasn’t really introduced to coffee until I was in college. And I like to go to the library on campus and get a vanilla latte from the little coffee shop that was in the library. And every time I would get that I just I it was more of like a comfort thing for me. I really liked to hold the hot coffee, and I love the flavor. But I didn’t like how it made me feel. Now usually about two hours or three hours after I would have the coffee, I was just in a really weird place like I would feel really lightheaded, I would get really what I think what they call brain fog, I would even get kind of nauseous and my stomach would get upset and my heart would just be racing. And so you would think that when you don’t feel good after something like that, you would stop doing it. But as we know caffeine has addictive properties. And I loved just the the taste of it. And the whole experience of sitting in the library with my cup of coffee. And so I just kept going back for more and I kept doing it. And I finally got to a point my senior year of college where I would have to lie down I’d have to go back to my room and lie down after I had coffee until my heart would come down. And until my brain fog would lift. And I started to realize, you know, I just don’t think I can tolerate caffeine very well. I was never really a soda drinker. So there was never really a lot of caffeine in my life before then. And so I just assumed maybe because I hadn’t had it before my body was really struggling to metabolize it. So I stopped it. My senior year of college, I stopped that habit finally, and fast forward to being married at an early age. My husband and I got married right right out of college. And he was a huge coffee fan like huge. I think it’s hereditary actually for his family because I can remember his grandmother sitting at our family Christmas and she could have drank a whole pot by herself. And that’s my husband. I mean, he would brew a pot of Folgers Coffee every single morning and pour it into his giant thermos and take it with him to school. And I didn’t like the smell of Folgers Coffee. I didn’t like the taste of it. And so it wasn’t really a big, big thing for me.

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The only thing that I really struggled with was, you know, going on a vacation or going to a bookstore and really feeling like I wanted that cup of coffee But I avoided it. And it wasn’t until probably about 10 years ago, I was listening to a podcast. It was a Bulletproof Radio Podcast where Dave Asprey was talking about his new bulletproof coffee beans. And he made the remark that that his particular beans were considered clean coffee mycotoxin, free mold, toxin free, preservative free. And that kind of caught my attention because I was like, well isn’t shouldn’t all coffee be, you know, free of bad things. But just like nutrition, we know that’s not always the case. So I started listening more, and he did a podcast at that time that the podcast was pretty new. And he did, he did an episode on you know, the importance of clean coffee. And he talked about the sustainability of his coffee beans, and, you know, the methods at which they were harvested and, and the different things that were not added and the ways that they were cleaned. And I was just blown away by the science behind this concept of clean coffee. And still knowing that I would love to consume it. But it just didn’t make my body feel good. And so on one of the episodes he mentioned, you know, this type of coffee will not give you the jitters, it will not give you brain fog, it’ll actually boost your mental performance. And it really just that was it. For me, I was like, I got to try this, I’ve got to see what it’s all about. And so 10 years ago, my husband and I ordered our first little sample of bulletproof coffee. And ever since then we’ve been completely hooked on this concept of clean coffee, I could have one or two cups of it and actually feel more mentally alert, I did not get any brain fog, I did not get any sort of jitters or anything like that. And it was just an amazing, an amazing thing. Because everything that he had said in that podcast was ringing true for me and for my body.

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So fast forward again to just a couple of years ago. And of course me diving in deeper to my own hormone health journey. I think this was circa 2016 2017. When my first daughter was a baby. I went to my holistic doctor, and she had done some some blood work on my cortisol and discovered that I was she thought I was dealing with a little bit of adrenal fatigue. And of course, given my background, having owned a gym, teaching bootcamp classes and personal training. I wasn’t too surprised my body was kind of telling me I needed to rest that something was up and I needed to kind of calmed down. And I remember being in that appointment and asking her, Can I Can I still drink coffee? And her response to me was, you can you know, sweetie, your adrenals are very weak, and they’re very fragile. So you need to back off, she said, maybe one cup a day or keep it to one cup of decaf. And I remember just my overall just feel my whole body just saying like, Oh, no, you know, how can I stick to one cup of coffee and I honestly don’t even know if people like that exist. If you are somebody who drinks just one cup of coffee a day, please reach out to me because I think you were a phenom. Usually people who love coffee, could drink a lot of it.

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So I was devastated. And I went on this quest again to really figure out you know, was it the caffeine that was contributing to my adrenal fatigue? Or was it hurting it at all or what what exactly was going on and I started diving into a lot of the different research especially from people like Dave Asprey, and people who have created and and sourced clean coffee, including my good friend, Charlie, who is the CEO and founder of LifeBoost coffee, which is our current coffee beans of choice. For the last couple years, we’ve been obsessed with LifeBoost coffee, and I started to realize that it wasn’t always the caffeine that was causing an issue with people. It was the mycotoxins and the mold, toxins and everything that we’ve already discussed.

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So I started to kind of treat my body like a guinea pig, sort of, like I tell my course takers all the time that you know, a lot of what I’m teaching you are things that I’ve learned through my own experience and my own trial and error. And I decided to, to do that for myself. So I took a couple of months. In 2017, I took two or three months off of caffeine entirely, just to see how my body responded and I, I truly did not see any difference. I didn’t feel necessarily more rested, I didn’t feel like I was I track my sleep. I wasn’t necessarily getting better sleep by not having the caffeine. I didn’t see a huge difference in removing the caffeine from my diet. But I did notice that, you know, when I introduce coffee back into my diet, that I started to see a difference again when I would have other brands of coffee. So the only time we really get into that predicament is when we’re traveling so we had gone to a couple of conferences. Of course we didn’t bring our coffee with us although we do now. And I had had a couple of coffees at coffee shops there on the premises and just was completely kind of like threw me back to college days like felt like I needed to lie down like I was super lightheaded, brain fog, nausea, all the things and so I I realized that it wasn’t necessarily the caffeine, but it was the the quality of the bean. And so you could say that I’ve become a huge advocate for clean coffee, especially for women dealing with hormone imbalance, especially for women who’ve been told that they’re dealing with some adrenal fatigue, because it’s been such a difference maker for me.

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So, of course, number one, first and foremost, the key is to moderate right to keep things in moderation. You don’t have to have a pot of coffee, I certainly have never been at that level of obsession, but I have kept my coffee to usually either one full cup, like a full caffeine coffee per day, or two cups of half decaf. It just was what works best for my body, I don’t seem to notice any sort of impact on my blood sugar or, or any sort of impact on my you know, overall feeling. And so I can get by with that much with without feeling like it’s, it’s messing with me, I don’t necessarily have it every day, I do alternate between the LifeBoost coffee beans and a brand called Four Sigmatic, I’ll make sure that I link you guys in the show notes to both of these companies, because they’re pretty outstanding. But Four Sigmatic is another great brand, that actually has a lot of brain health sub supplements that have been proven for brain health added to their actual coffee. And the best part of the Four Sigmatic brand is that you can actually take the coffee with you when you’re traveling, they come in these little kind of like tea you know tea sized packets that you can take with you on the go, which is pretty awesome. They think they have things like reishi, mushroom, and lion’s mane and a lot of really great supplements for brain health. And I’ve never really had any issues with those as well. If I if I consume Four Sigmatic I also don’t have any of those yucky symptoms. So I rotate between the two. Sometimes I’ll even have like a Teecino or I’ll just back off the coffee for a couple of days. It’s something that I definitely consume in moderation, but I’m a huge fan of the clean coffee beans.

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So if you are someone who is has been told, you know, you have weak adrenals back off the exercise back off the coffee, we should have a conversation because a lot of times it’s not it’s not about you know, yes, should you back off the folders or the traditional coffee beans, even the ones found in the big bins at your local Whole Foods. Yes, you should back off those because most likely they’re containing mycotoxins and nasty things that are not good for your body. So we should make the switch, we should make the switch to clean coffee, we should we should keep things in moderation, we should always of course focus on hydration and drinking enough water, I always make sure that I have a nice tall 12 to 14 ounce glass of water before I consume any coffee in the morning. But at the end of the day, I really do believe that there’s a way to heal your hormone imbalance and heal your adrenals. While still you know incorporating the things that you love into your diet. If I can find a way to make delicious gluten free dairy free chocolate donuts, that do not have any sort of refined sugar, but they still satisfy that doughnut craving. You know, or if I can find these clean coffee beans that can give me the satisfaction of that cup of coffee in the library. Or while I’m doing my work at home. Those are things that are they matter, they matter to our quality of life, they matter to our health. And sometimes it really is making those small changes of in fact, a lot of the time it is making the small changes that makes the biggest difference on your body and in your health.

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So I hope this is beneficial to you I will make sure that I link in the show notes the I actually have a couple of coupon codes I can give you for both LifeBoost coffee or Four Sigmatic both my top two brands as it pertains to clean coffee. So if you have any questions of course, you can always reach out to me on social media, just a message away. But I’m here to help bring you a better quality of life as it pertains to your nutrition and your fitness and syncing with your cycle. So I hope you found benefit from this today. If you did, please share it out on your social share it with friends leave us a review. I would love to connect with you if you’d like to connect but I hope that after this after this podcast, you’re going to go hop on and you’re going to order some clean coffee and you’re going to dump all that other stuff out of your pantry and make the switch because your health is worth it. Have a great day you guys!

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Thanks for listening to this episode of the SYNC Your Life Podcast. I hope you found value from today’s episode. If you did, please share it out to your friends or leave a review. Remember your cycles are your superpower and by aligning with them you can live your life with all the energy needs to be a mom, Wife, Daughter and friend to those you love. Until next time!

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Welcome to the SYNC Your Life Podcast. I’m your host, Jenny Swisher, certified personal trainer, nutritionist hormone health expert and girl mom. I believe all women should be able to understand how our bodies are designed to feel and I teach you how to sync your lifestyle to your cycle to reach maximum energy. You deserve to feel your best and this podcast is going to teach you how. Let’s dive in

This podcast is sponsored by The SYNC Digital Course to take the free hormone imbalance quiz to see what your symptoms could mean about your health. Visit sync.jennyswisher.com That’s sync s y n c dot Jenny swisher.com

Okay, let’s dive right in. Ladies welcome to the podcast. I’m so excited to have Julia Baker and Sarah king with me today we’re gonna be talking the ins and outs of corrective exercise occupational therapy and of course cycle syncing. I’m Jenny Swisher, I’ll be your host for today. As usual. I’m excited to talk to these ladies. I’ve been working with these ladies for well over a year. Now in my SYNC Course. I know that they have some really awesome unique experiences and some really incredible credentials behind their names. I’m going to give you just a little bit of an overview before we dive into sort of a Q & A. Sarah is a registered occupational therapist. She is a postpartum and pregnancy corrective exercise specialist. She has her Bachelor of Science in Psychology from the University of Indianapolis and her master’s in occupational therapy from the University of Indianapolis. She’s also recently SYNC Certified in my program, so she’s very well aware of women’s hormone health and how to sync with your cycle. She’s also a mother of three girls. So I just realized the three of us all our girl moms, so we have that in common as well. Awesome. Julia is a registered occupational therapist as well. She is a postpartum and pregnancy corrective exercise specialist. She has her Bachelor’s in health science and a sociology minor in Psychology from Bradley University and her master’s in occupational therapy from the University of Indianapolis. I’m assuming maybe you guys met at the University of Indianapolis? Is

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that correct? Actually, no, no. Okay.

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Do you have that in common? So have you known each other longer?

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We have not we actually met about six years ago, through our church through our church moms group. And we we do both have degrees from from the University of Indianapolis, but we were there at different times. So our paths did not cross.

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Wow, that’s incredible.

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Okay, something that we had in common, though, that helped us like to become friends, like, you know, it’s just something easy to talk about. Yeah, together.

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Well, I love following these ladies on social media, you can we’ll talk more about how you can follow them toward the end of the episode. But they’ve created a cool little partnership here. And I’m excited to kind of dive into what they have to offer, I know that they have an upcoming course launching. So that’s going to be exciting. By the time this podcast launches, the course will be live. So we’ll definitely be sure to direct everybody there. But I’m just going to kind of open it up to you guys. And let you guys tell us more about sort of your journey, like what led you to where you are now. Tell us a little bit about your life in general, you know, as being moms and whatnot, but also about sort of your background in occupational therapy.

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Sure. So you want to start where I graduated from occupational therapy school in 2010. And then my husband and I actually moved to Savannah, Georgia, shortly after I graduated. And we found out during the move that I was pregnant. And so I was pregnant for the first time in a brand new city and state. And starting on my first full time job. I worked on a rehab unit, where I worked primarily with patients with stroke, back surgery, or cardiac problems. And I really, really enjoyed my work with the geriatric population. I really enjoyed that. But I had my daughter in 2011. And then I had another daughter in 2013. And then I had another daughter in early 2016. And so I ended up deciding that I wanted to stay home. And it is kind of funny because I make jokes sometimes that occupational therapy, you know, we work with the things that occupy people’s daily lives. So I always say what occupies your time and that’s different for everybody. And then we look at what occupies your time, and we help you to do those things, if you have some kind of injury or dysfunction. And then what we’re trying to do at InFORMed Fitness is to try and help you do those things better in your daily life before you have some kind of injury or dysfunction. But I Do sometimes joke that occupational therapy because we, a lot of the things are basic living skills, things like being able to bathe yourself, dress yourself, get an on and off a toilet by yourself, being able to cook meals, do your daily tasks. And sometimes I joke that occupational therapy and being a mom are not that different, because you’re at home and you’re teaching your children to bathe themselves and dress themselves, and to do potty training, and things like that. I actually was not a very active person. And then after I had had my third baby, I decided that something had to change. So I decided to start my fitness journey. And I really wish that I would have gotten some more help, then so I started, just, I think we’ll talk about this a little more lately, but that’s really what directed me towards learning so much more about postpartum and pregnancy corrective exercise.

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Yeah, and in some ways, my story’s a little bit similar to Julia’s, I graduated from the University of Indianapolis in 2005. moved to North Carolina Three years later, and was there for five years, had my first child away from home, at the same time was dealing with chronic pain in my hip. I was an athlete all through high school and through college, through the shot, put Javelin discus, and that was a lot of wear and tear on my left hip. So trying to kind of shift from being an athlete to working out for life, at the same time being the breadwinner for my family and traveling. And I was in management for occupational therapy at that time, and just really was lost in in how to figure out where fitness fit in my life at that point.

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Gotcha. So you so let’s, let’s talk about because you’ve had, I think I know you well enough to know, like, you’ve had the the hip surgery, and you’ve kind of been through all that. And as someone who’s suffered with chronic pain myself, I know how miserable that can be. And so what would you say? Like, was that really? Did you know, when you were going through that process? Did you feel like, you know, someday I’m going to come back even stronger, and I’m going to keep fitness part of my life are kind of how did that get reintroduced for you? Because obviously, you were an athlete? How did that injury sort of play a role?

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Yeah, it’s, um, it took a lot of time and an effort on my part. And it was really, it was difficult, because here I was, as an occupational therapist, and I was working with people and encouraging them to exercise but yet I was struggling in my own life, to find exercise that worked for me. And there was a lot of trial and error. I saw some physical therapists for myself, I tried the pain injection route and did everything that I could, because at the time I was in my early 30s. And no, no doctor would do a hip replacement until I was well into my 30s or even later. And so it was it was a it was a lot of trial, a lot of error, a lot of frustration that I eventually landed with a cycle bike and at home fitness programs. And then after that we moved to to Fort Wayne, and I started to get more active in our local Y. And that’s when Julia and I met. And we had this not only do we have this occupational therapy as common, but we had this fitness struggle, even though they were different. They were both struggles. And it was something that we could share and commiserate with with each other.

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Yeah, so tell me more about when it comes to especially women and corrective exercise. What are what are some common things that you guys see, when working with women? What are some some common issues that need correcting?

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I think what happens that people don’t really realize is that there are certain patterns that our bodies fall into that, especially if you have been pregnant, but you can do it, you can fall into these patterns just by living a western lifestyle, we have a tendency to adjust as our bodies grow a baby, and we tend to have where our like ribs will flare and will go ahead and tilt our pelvis forward to make room well, then we have this baby. And our body has been doing that for so long, that we don’t correct back into a good body alignment. And when we don’t correct back into a body alignment, that’s what leads to a lot of things like back pain, it can increase leakage, urine leakage, if you have problems, it can get shoulder pain, those kinds of things. It’s really important to look at how the body is moving as a whole and what needs to be strengthened but also what might need to be shifted so that we can use our exercising, to actually get into a good pattern that will do decrease pain. And not only decrease pain, but then carry over into our daily lives. Because as you know, Jenny that our fitness is just a sliver of the time that we spend moving our bodies on a daily basis. So you can do all the corrective exercise in the gym. But if that’s not carrying over for you and your functional life, while you’re lifting up a baby or running a vacuum or emptying the dishwasher, then those those poor patterns are going to continue to stay, as are the pain and discomfort associated with them. It’s about using good body mechanics, not just when you deadlift but also when you garden. And also when you are walking around your house or doing your daily tasks. Because in the long run, we spend maybe an hour in the gym, and then we spend 12 hours at home doing other things. So you get more impact when you have good body mechanics throughout your entire day.

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It’s interesting, because when I dealt with, I went through a total of four neck surgeries in my 20s, which we thought were at the time we thought were contributing my neck was contributing to my headaches at the time. Now we know it’s hormonal. But at the time I went through a lot of these surgeries and of course was referred to a physical therapist. And for me, it was also around that time that I was introduced to home fitness programs and sort of fitness and nutrition in general. And I learned so much during that short time just on what I what I would consider to be somewhat corrective exercise like he I remember working with him on a lot of resting positions for me, like I was a lot of my resting positions. For example, like sitting at the computer at my corporate job, I wasn’t sitting ergonomically correct. I was kind of lounging my legs forward and slouching my back. And it was of course impacting my neck and everything as well. So just little things like that, that I think a lot of people aren’t aware of, now that I’m a mom, with my first child who’s now five, I never had any back issues. And of course, both of my girls are adopted. So I didn’t have birth, I didn’t have that sort of experience. But we were at the beach when she was about nine months old. And I I made the mistake of sort of, I guess you could call it a deadlift I dipped our toes into the ocean, I even have it on video because it was her first, her first time being dipped in the ocean and my legs were locked. And I’m guessing she was around 20 pounds or so. And I just my back gave out. And that was the beginning of sort of this roller coaster lower back experience that I’ve had ever since. And now that I have a nine month old. Again, I’m seeing, you know, wow, I carry her on my right hip all the time. So no wonder I’m a little a little off, you know, and I see my husband, he’s he’s been doing the same thing. He’ll say, I think I carry her on my left. So I’m a little bit out of whack. So it’s funny because I think, you know, when I think about personal training, I think about when I was in the gym, especially, you know, I could look at somebody and say, Okay, we’re gonna do a squat, right, and they would watch me do it with really great form, like I would show them the perfect form and technique for a squat. And I would say, okay, feet hip distance apart. And without even looking down at their feet, they would flare their feet out or flare their feet in, they thought that their feet were underneath their hips, but they were we call this proprioception right. And so instead, you get this thing that’s really not at all like a squat, but they think that they’re doing what you’re doing. Right. And so I think in general, people in general just have sort of a lack of awareness of different things that their body is doing, because it is natural to them, whether it’s those resting positions or, or not. So I love what you guys are doing. I think this is awesome. I remember when I went through my personal training, certifications and such there was there was a folk it happened to be that the guy that facilitated it was a spec, he specialized in corrective exercise. So I got a little bit of a taste for that when I went through that and I love I love learning more. So let me ask you a little bit more specifically, like what do you think is most overlooked as it pertains to women’s fitness? I’d love to hear your take on on that.

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When Sarah and I were both going through our postpartum and pregnancy corrective exercise course, the impact that breathing has and how we breathe. The impact on everything that we do was mind blowing. Yes. If I think that so many things could be corrected. If we just learned to breathe properly. In our course, we actually do an entire module on breathing and we do we talk about how breathing should happen, and different exercises to get breathing better, because the thing that is overlooked with breathing is first of all, so many of us have our ribs completely locked down. There are bad cues out there and they’re well intentioned cues. But there are so many places where you know, you go and you go through some kind of relaxation or whatever and people take take a nice deep breath into your belly. And I can understand the sentiment I really can but honestly you’re not doing anything for the quality of breathing just breathing into the belly and honestly If you have like a weaker core, if you have a diastasis, or something like that, you could be making that problem worse. So I think that it’s really, really underrated, to not just go to the basics of breathing, because breathing will help you have better mobility, it can expand places where you have shortened muscles or where you are tight, it can help you with your leaking because there’s an upper system of breathing. So you’ve got from, you know, you’ve got your lungs and your diaphragm. And everybody talks about how when your diaphragm goes down, your lungs expand and your diaphragm comes up and your lungs go to what people aren’t realizing is there’s a lower half to that system. And in the lower half of that system is where when your diaphragm diaphragm, excuse me descends, your pelvic floor should also be descending. And then when it comes up, your pelvic floor should also be coming up. And you have to make room for your body pressure, or for your abdominal pressure, excuse me. And that is when we lead to so many problems is when we can’t manage the pressure. So I think that really breathing gets highly, highly overlooked. Absolutely. And speaking on that pressure management piece. I think that’s a word that I’m hearing more often is you’ve got to learn to manage your pressure. Well, yes, you do. But you have to understand the mechanics, in order to manage that pressure. It’s not enough to breathe properly during a squat or during a deadlift, but also to manage that pressure in your daily life. So that when you do bend over to put your child in the ocean, you’re using your breath to help support you, because what will happen is is that pressure is going to find the path of least resistance. And so like Julia said, if that happens to be in your core, it’s going to come out to the diastasis. If that happens to to be in the pelvic floor, it’s going to come out as urine leakage. And there’s this phenomenon right now in sport that that women leak when they’re lifting. And just because it’s common, doesn’t mean it’s normal. And so that’s one of those myths that we want to bust is that you can lift correctly and heavily without leaking leaking is is a source or an indication of a deeper problem.

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Well, I want to ask a couple questions about this. I hope it’s okay to kind of go off the cuff here with with some of this stuff. But I’m fascinated by this diastasis diastasis recti, and the pelvic floor dysfunction. I know for me personally, having been in the personal training world, it was pretty common for me to meet with women who said, Oh, I can’t do core exercises, because I have diastasis. I’d love to hear what do you guys say to that? When someone says, I recently delivered a baby? I’m dealing with diastasis? I can’t do crunches, right? Like, what do you guys say to that? What how do you address that?

18:00
So I think the the the short answer is that is that we’re all different. And we all our bodies are going to respond differently. So a blanket statement of don’t do this, because you have this is never the answer. I still have separation in my abs, but I know how to manage my pressure. So I can do some of those exercises that I couldn’t do earlier, when I wasn’t able to manage my pressure well. So it it’s really looking at the individual person and how they’re able to work through a move or understand what their body is doing in a particular move as to whether that is a good move for their body or not. I think a lot of it comes down to how much time you’re willing to spend on education. And then of course, how much the person retains which you can only control so much of that, but it’s a lot simpler. It may be simpler, but I don’t think it’s the right way to just give somebody a blanket rule of like, don’t do crunches, but it takes more time to educate somebody on okay, we need to be looking at are you doming, you know, do you have it? Like is your is your split widening, like what kinds of things you need to be doing and actually problem solve, and, and educate? Now I do think that there are good substitutions out there. But here’s the thing about substitutions, somebody who’s told that they can’t do crunches can just as easily go out and do a dead bug terribly. Okay, and be having this same exact problem. And so just giving hard and fast rules of will just don’t do crunches. And we all know the old information Dies Hard, right? So I think that it just takes a long time for and it’s happening I see it happening, but for more of that education to get out there because I you know, I see a lot of I use home fitness programs also. And I feel like they could do better work in teaching modifications, but I think that there is Just this gap between therapy and training, and there’s this little space in between where people need to know how to work back up to that high intensity exercise. And that gap is not being met. And that’s, you know, that’s a goal of ours is to try and fill some of that gap.

20:18
So yeah, I love it, you said that, I remember, you know, all three of us are home fitness people. And I remember there was a program years ago, where the the trainer that that led the program, actually, she did the modifications. So she was the one teaching the program, teaching, the modifications from the front of the quote unquote, stage right are right in front of the camera. And then she had forgot, I think what they called, it was like an amplifier or something, instead of having a modifier, it was like, we’re gonna have somebody who’s going to do the the more extreme version next to her. And I was like, that’s so needed. You know, that’s so needed. Because I know, for me, even when I just hurt my back a couple of times, in the last few years, like I mentioned, there have been times where when I come back into exercise, after, you know, being in that place of rest and recovery, I follow the modifier, and I’m always blown away at how good of a workout I’m getting. And in a lot, a lot of cases, how I’m like, Oh, I don’t even think I was doing that right at the amplified level. Like I’m deeper in my lunge this way, or I, I feel it more where I’m supposed to feel it this way. So I think there’s something to that, for sure. For sure.

21:21
Yeah, that makes me think of two things. One, I think that it’s great when they show modifications, but that there needs to be more education of why you might need a modification. You might need a modification. Yes, somebody can go out there and do something and be like, well, it doesn’t hurt. I’m not leaking, so it must be okay. But that is not necessarily the truth. And then to this whole idea that modifications are less than this isn’t, I mean, talk about driving me crazy, like modifications are honoring your body, like that’s absolutely. You know, what your body needs, and you’re going to get great greater gains, if you meet your body where it’s at, than if you push it and then have an injury that you can’t come back from?

22:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I used to stand in front of a, I used to do small group personal training, and I would stand in front of a group of women and I always had two types of women, I had the type that was like, I’m just gonna say balls to the wall, like, they’re gonna do the jump lunch squats, you know, and a lot of times, they’re not even, they’re just wanting to blow through it. So they’re, they’re not even going deep into their lunges, they’re just blowing through the exercise for 30 seconds. And then you’ve got the person on the other end of this the extreme who’s doing a strength exercise, who’s who’s lifting two pound weights and doesn’t want to go any any greater, because she’s afraid she’s gonna bulk up, right? So there’s like these two extremes of like, the person afraid of strength training, and the person who’s just balls to the wall, but they’re not really getting much out of it, because they’re not doing it with correct form. So I think

22:47
I think that speaks to mindset. And that that is something else that we cover in our course. And it’s something that I had to really work on, shifting from that athlete mentality to like I said earlier, that every day health mentality, and I got to be honest with you, when I first started doing corrective exercise for myself, I thought, golly, what a waste of time, I didn’t even sweat. Like I always associated how much I was sweating to the effort that I was putting into the exercise. And I have since learned, it’s not about the sweat. It’s about getting my body in that good alignment and contracting the muscles, how they’re designed to work. So that then I can carry that over outside of the gym, and not just be depleted. I remember, you know, doing exercise and then just not being able to function the rest of the day because I was so depleted from that particular workout. And chasing the calorie burn. Yes, absolutely. Right. I monitor my heart rate now not my calorie burn.

23:50
Yes, as you should, as you should. Okay, well, let’s talk more about sort of your health and fitness journeys. You know, what, if anything, what would you tell yourself, you know, what would you tell the the 20 Somethings Sarah or the 20 Somethings Julia, you could look back on that. Yeah,

24:07
yeah. Um, I think that I would absolutely offer myself more grace. I don’t think that I really understood the level and intensity of pain that I was experiencing on a daily basis. I just knew that I was frustrated because I couldn’t. I mean, there were times when I couldn’t carry groceries up the stairs because my hip was hurting so bad. But yet I had this voice in my head that says you have to work out you have to work out you have to work out. And so I would go back and counsel that Sarah and say, This is what you need. You need that corrective exercise you need to get that hip in good alignment before you ask the muscles to do any any more work, because I am, almost it’ll be six years in October post total hip replacement, and I am still working on muscle imbalances from that journey. So Grace, and then, you know, allowing myself to pick programs that fit where I’m at in my life, and being okay with, with not doing what the calendar says today is supposed to be. Are the are the two of my biggest takeaways?

25:29
Yeah, what about you, Julia?

25:31
Well, so it’s I’m some times now I get almost embarrassed to say like, I didn’t actually start being active until I was 30. So I was the band geek in high school, actually, I was in the color guard, even better. And so I was plenty active. And, you know, my metabolism was crazy, because I was teenager and everything was, you know, it was all just about the body image. But like, I never really learned, like how to put a program together, or I knew how to rehab patients, right. But I didn’t know how to do a basic fitness program. And so it finally just had to reach this point, I had had three babies in five years. And I, it really, for me, at that time was a weight loss thing. And I just decided that I was going to start running, you know, I just, I wish that I could go back. And I could tell my 30 year old self to get to go ahead and invest in some more coaching and some more help on what I actually needed, which at the time was probably either some pelvic floor PT or something like postpartum corrective exercise. And I needed to know that I needed strength training I needed to know. But like, I would never have considered strength training, because I didn’t know how to strength train. And that’s really, you know, a lot of times when Sarah and I have been working on our Foundation’s Course, that’s launching soon, we have written it for the 30 year old Julia’s that are out there. Because by the time you are 30, you have thought to yourself, I really need to get more fit, I really need to exercise more. But you either have you look around and you see these women that have been exercising forever and already know. And so you’re scared, although, honestly, I have found those women to actually be quite helpful once I finally said that I needed some help. But from the outside looking in, it’s very scary, right? And so or, you know, or sedentary, like their life is on a spectrum. And you saw the two extremes and, and it was hard to find my way in. So for me, it was cheaper and easier. And like anybody can run. So you know. So I bought a 99 cent app, and I did a couch to 5k. And I don’t regret any of that, by the way, because I actually do enjoy running. But I immediately had knee pain. And I don’t know if I was leaking then or not, I probably didn’t pay a lot of attention to it. But, and I was a young mom with three young children and I was nursing and I was doing all these things. I was being really hard on my body. And I wish that I had somebody out there to be like, okay, like, let’s, let’s look at our mindset. And let’s first work on our breathing. And, you know, strength training is really important here, I’ll show you how to do it. And so as we have gone through this journey of doing infor, you know, so like I took the five years and think to myself, like what are all the things that happened to me in those five years that I could save somebody some time and hope, because a lot of people I tend to have kind of a stubborn personality. So I kept going. But I could see where a lot of people could have experienced some of the difficulties that I experienced and quit. You know, and I don’t want people to quit, I want people to have a warm community where they can ask the questions that you feel too stupid that you feel are stupid questions. And to get feedback from somebody who says yes, you are doing it right, because sometimes we all need a little hand holding. And that’s why InFORMed Fitness. I’m pretty passionate about InFORMed Fitness and our Foundation’s Course I’m really hoping that there are some women who have wanted to try something, but have have maybe not felt empowered and and we want to empower those women.

29:22
Yeah, I love what you guys are doing. I think that the online courses are so powerful because there’s an element to them. That’s, you know, a mom at home with three littles who might not want to make time to go to an occupational therapy appointment, necessarily can access your material online, and learn so much and start the process of progress. Right. So I love what you guys are doing and I want you guys to share that information here shortly. So before we wrap up, what I wanted to ask specifically is, you know, I’m hearing what you’re saying and it’s funny because I’m instantly thinking of two different friends that I have. Both are mothers who have given birth, the first one is a friend of mine who was a marathon runner. She liked doing home fitness and working out at the gym sort of just an all around fitness lover. She, she delivered her second child, and started having some pelvic floor diastasis issues. And I while I wasn’t super involved in that process with her, I do know just from being a friend that she was blown away, when she started working with someone who was a pelvic floor specialist, how much progress she could make doing the corrective exercises, as opposed to really just getting back to fitness, right and skipping the crunches. And then my other friends that I’m specifically thinking about is someone who had their baby and came back fully expecting themselves to be able to dive into sort of the intense exercise that they were doing before. And was even you know, at times, like, one friend, my friend that had done the pelvic floor had even mentioned to her, you know, have you thought about doing corrective exercise for pelvic floor? And she said, No, no, no, I’m just gonna keep doing what I’ve always done. I’m just gonna keep doing the exercise. And to this day, I see I see the difference in the two women, I see the difference in their cores. But of course, I also see the difference in their movements and what they value and sort of, you know, so I’m saying that really with no, no question behind it, but I just wanted to share, like, I have seen the two the two routes be taken. And I think that there is so much power in what you guys are doing, there’s so much power in taking control of your health. And sometimes it is doing the things that might feel slower, or that might feel like it’s not progress, but it’s worth it to not injure yourself. And if the ultimate goal, you know, I’m really passionate about making sure that women are aligning themselves with their physiology. And for us to be pushing ourselves through carrying groceries up the stairs and hip pain, because we have too much pride or whatnot to see an occupational therapist is just that she’s been doing. Exactly. So okay, so both of you guys, like I mentioned at the beginning, both of you guys have taken my SYNC Digital Course where you guys have learned all about syncing your cycles with your fitness nutrition with your cycles. What would you guys say has been your experience in the course? Like, what are some standout things that you guys have learned? How are you applying some of that to what you’re teaching? Yeah, I’ll just I’ll leave it up to you to to answer that.

32:18
Absolutely. So the SYNC Course was for me the course that that I was looking for. Julia and I had started having these conversations about our exercises. And I distinctly remember for myself, there were a couple of days where I would do my lifting at home. And then I would go and do a 60 minute cycle class at the Y within 20 minutes of each other. And I felt amazing. And the next week, I tried to do it and decide what is wrong with me. And but I didn’t know why. And Julia was experiencing some of those same things. And Jenny, you had shared about the book R.O.A.R. And so we dove into that book, I started reading it. And I’m sure Julia can tell you that I came, I ran over here. And I was like Julia, they have a book about what we’re talking about. And then eventually, you know, you were in the process of creating the SYNC Course. So I was like, sign me up, you know, for first one to register for it kind of thing. And what I learned was, the same thing that we’re trying to empower women through movement is to honor our bodies and where they’re at and how they’re so very different from men and the men based programs that are for general audiences. And again, that that complete mindset shift of, it’s okay not to do what the calendar tells you to do, to listen to your own body, to honor your body. And then to be open to different areas like I am currently working with an integrative medicine practitioner, and not having taken your course I would have never reached out to that field. But I’m learning so much about, you know, how my gut is being affected by the foods that I’m eating. And it’s very different from what a lot of general new nutrition programs are suggesting. So just that that wealth of knowledge and then being able to apply it to, to our work life, and to our just daily life, what we’re consuming what what our fitness program looks like, and how our really how everything is is surrounded by that cycle. So when I started exercising, I had a two month old and my cycle had not returned. And I have breastfed all of my children. And I am one of these ladies that is gifted with you know, 14 – 15 months typically, although the story is funny, that way of not having my cycle come back. Well, my cycle came back early. We didn’t we didn’t kind of figure that out. So then Briella hit See. So essentially, when I started exercising when I was 30, I actually didn’t ovulate or have a period until I was for whatever for three and a half years, for three and a half years. I didn’t because I, you know, there wasn’t anything wrong. It was just from breastfeeding amenorrhea. But so when my period came back, and because of the way that I had had my children, I had had like three periods in like, eight or nine years. And so I felt like a teenager again. I was like, I don’t even remember how this works, you know, I and but I definitely noticed I had worked my way up, there was one summer where I was just feeling kind of crazy. And I decided I wanted to do sprint triathlons. So I was sprint triathlon training. And in one week, I would feel amazing, you know, like, I would feel really great. And then two weeks later, I would run the same course, or swim the same number of yards, or bike, the same exact course. And I would feel like I was gonna fall off the bike, like, I just really, really felt terrible. And it would be two weeks later. So I would be like, like, why is this happening? Why am I getting worse? Training is supposed to make me get better, like what is happening here. And and it was interesting, because since I had been tracking my cycles for 10 years, I did say to Sarah, I was like, I think there might be something about my cycle that is affecting me. And it was pretty funny. I remember she showed up at my door, and she was like, this is exactly what you were talking about last week, you know, kind of thing. So we ate up that book. And then it took me a little while to have space just in my life to come and take the SYNC Course. But I think what the sink course helped me with was two things. It helped me with my mindset, because like I said, if that had kept happening, right, like, if every fourth week, my workouts were awful, like maybe I just want to, you know, been like, it’s not helping again, you know, and two now I have forgotten two to practical application, you know, like, actually being able to work in where I should do. You know, I’ve shifted my focus more to strength training, because I think that’s really important for my body as I go on. But at that time, you know, I did start to adjust my training schedule to, to honor my cycle.

37:25
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I’m so glad you guys shared that, because it’s been an honor to get have you guys in the course itself. And I know it’s funny because I was just talking to somebody who also recently got SYNC Certified as a SYNC Certified Coach, and she is actually going to be speaking to her husband is a high school basketball coach, girls basketball coach, I should mention, and she is going to be speaking to the girls basketball team about what she’s learned about about women’s hormones. And it was interesting, because we were sort of having a phone call about this. And she mentioned, you know, my that her goal for this conversation is to make the girls aware of the fact that their body will feel different week to week, that they could have a good game or a bad game. And it’s not necessarily because of their skill, ability or effort. It could be a hormonal related reason that they you know, that they’re feeling the way that they do. And I thought that was so powerful. Because, as we know, and as we talk about in the course, especially in your teenage years, you know, it’s a little bit different, because your body’s trying to figure itself out. And I can remember being a high school basketball athlete, and I, it was the exact same thing like I would have, of course, I was always a migraine sufferer. So I would have games where I was in migraine, you know, H-E double hockey sticks. And I would have games where I felt like I was just on top of the world and totally focused and in the game and high energy. And so looking back, I’m like, I’m pretty sure there were probably some hormones playing a role there. So how powerful is it that we can begin to spread the message to everyone about the power of cycles thinking so I’m so grateful for you guys doing this with me today? I’d love for you guys to direct people to where they could find you. Where can they find you on social media? And also, how can they get into your course, if you could share that with us?

39:04
Sure we hang out on Instagram and Facebook, both are at InFORMed Fitness LLC. And then our website is informedfitnessllc.com. And that website has information about our course, our first cohort will be launching mid September. And we are we are truly excited about sharing the knowledge that we’ve learned and empowering women to you know, take control of their own movement and health journeys.

39:04
Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. Well, I’ll make sure that all of that information as far as social and website and whatnot is all included in the show notes. So if you’re listening to this, feel free to check out the show notes for those direct links. Thank you guys so much for being here today. I’m so grateful. And I’m so glad to be friends with both of you. We’ll talk soon. Thanks, Jenny. Thank you. Thanks for bye

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