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[00:00:00] Jenny Swisher: Welcome friends to this episode of the sync your life podcast today. I’m joined by my new friend, Kaylee Tanner. She’s a sales strategist with brand builders group who I’ve been working with now for a few years. She previously worked with Peloton as an inside sales rep. And in addition to that, she’s actually a CrossFit level one certified coach with a particular focus on helping women navigate pregnancy and postpartum fitness.

[00:01:20] Jenny Swisher: She has a heart for serving others. She’s worked with missions like youth with a mission and students international. She’s well equipped to help individuals achieve their business goals and share their message with the world. I know that when we had connected previously, I was so excited to have her on the show because.

[00:01:34] Jenny Swisher: If there’s one thing we have in common, while I’ve never done CrossFit, I would consider myself someone who trains kind of like a CrossFit athlete. So we have some similarities in our stories. I know a lot of my listeners are home fitness, women, women who like to press play on those higher intensity workouts.

[00:01:48] Jenny Swisher: So I know we’re gonna, we’re gonna bond over that a little bit today. We’re going to talk about that. So Kaylee, welcome to the show without further ado, I would love for you to just share your story with my audience. It’s like. Tell us more about who you are and what you do.

[00:01:59] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah, thanks, Jenny. I’m so excited to connect and, uh, just talk about this a little bit more.

[00:02:05] Kaylee Tanner: So, yes, I am a mom of two. I’ve got two daughters. I’ve got a two year old and an 11 month old. And I work for, Brand Builders Group, where we originally, um, have gotten to connect. And I get to help. People, on a daily basis, share their message and make an impact with their, um, you know, their dreams.

[00:02:28] Kaylee Tanner: And, um, previously to working with Brand Builders Group, I was a full time missionary. So I lived in Kona, Hawaii for five years, um, and I worked for a ministry that used the avenue of CrossFit, to, um, honestly just talk about Jesus with other people. So, um, I did CrossFit.

[00:02:58] Kaylee Tanner: For seven years, I think, and, um, you know, in that space, it’s high intensity, you know, it’s, it’s redlining every day in your workout, and I loved it. Absolutely loved it. I love doing CrossFit. And I would say about four years ago, right before I actually met my husband, I was on my period, and I woke up in the middle of the night, it was like 11 o’clock at night, with The most excruciating pain I’ve literally ever experienced and I had no idea what was happening.

[00:03:49] Kaylee Tanner: I ran to the bathroom I sat on the toilet Completely lost consciousness, fell, broke my nose, and I woke up on my bathroom floor with like my, at the time I had two roommates, and they were just kind of like hovered over me, and they were like, what the heck just happened, and I have, I have no idea what happened.

[00:04:10] Kaylee Tanner: And they brought me to my bed, I woke up the next day, totally like disillusioned, like totally out of it. Went to the doctor and he was like, yeah, even if you broke your nose, I was like, yeah, I don’t know what happened. So after that, uh, I kind of consistently started having these really, like, gnarly periods.

[00:04:33] Kaylee Tanner: And I would be totally buckled over, like, when I was actually, you know, in my menstruation, phase of my cycle. And I would not be able to get out of bed, like, I tried all the pain meds, like, I would have the heating pad, and I was totally, like, just, I, I, I was immobile. And a couple times it landed me in the hospital, because I was in such bad pain, and, um, You know, I remember somebody saying, Hey, I think you might have endometriosis.

[00:05:06] Kaylee Tanner: And I was like, what the heck is that? Like, what does that even mean? And, you know, I just started doing my own research about endometriosis and, um, you know, it’s a disease where, the same tissue that’s on the inside of your uterus grows outside of your uterus throughout your body.

[00:05:25] Kaylee Tanner: It can grow anywhere in your body. A lot of times it is in your pelvic floor, um, and It causes scar tissue to grow throughout, your body and what can happen is that scar tissue will actually fuse together and, cause different organs and things in your body to be fused together.

[00:05:48] Kaylee Tanner: So, I went to my doctor. I’m like, hey, doc, like, I think this is what I have and she said, you don’t have endometriosis. And even if you did have endometriosis, nobody would treat you. And I was, I think at the time I was 27, I, um, You know, by this time that I’m actually doing some, um, proactive work to see if this is it, it’s been about a year, um, of, of painful, like really painful periods.

[00:06:28] Kaylee Tanner: So I had actually had gotten married. This is a couple months after I got married and I’m like, Hey, you know, I, this is, Sex is hurting now. Like, I, it’s, it’s, you know, it’s, I think this is what I have. And after she told me that I didn’t have it, I just knew that I, honestly, there was just something in me, um, which, you know, just told me that I, she was wrong.

[00:06:54] Kaylee Tanner: I was like, she’s wrong. So I went and I got a second opinion. And, I went to an OB. And I had a cat scan. Done. And, um, you know, when I, met with the OB after my scan, she was like, hey, I think you have endometriosis. And here’s why. You know, on your scan, I can definitely see cysts on your ovaries.

[00:07:19] Kaylee Tanner: And most of the times when they are cysts, they are filled with a clear liquid, so I can see through them on a scan. Your cysts are dark, which means they’re filled with blood, which means it’s endometriosis. She said the only way that you can diagnose endo is by having a laparoscopic surgery, where we actually kind of, um, you know, burn away the scar tissue.

[00:07:47] Kaylee Tanner: So we, I had the surgery. It turns out that I had stage three endometriosis, which means that my, um, my organs in my body were surely fused together. So my ovaries were actually fused to the, my abdominal wall and had my laparoscopic surgery. after my surgery, it got worse. The pain did not go away, and I started to just kind of go on this journey of like, there has to be a better way, like there’s got to be something else going on, and before this, I’m going to just backtrack a little bit, before I had my surgery, I got to a place of Such severe chronic back pain that I had to stop working out because I couldn’t bend over to even like lift a 15 pound weight off the ground.

[00:08:47] Kaylee Tanner: So I wasn’t able to work out. I had this surgery. My symptoms were worse. And so that’s when I started kind of doing this, this deep dive into like, what the heck is going on with my hormones? Like what is happening? And I just went. You know, on this rabbit trail of like realizing, holy smokes, no one ever told me how, you know, hormones are this kind of like master system for our whole body.

[00:09:27] Kaylee Tanner: And somebody told me about Elisa Vitti’s book in the flow, and I started listening to that on audio and I was like, Oh my gosh, like, my mind is blown. Right. Like what, especially in the fitness industry, I’m like, everything is geared towards men and their one phase, you know, um, you know, daily cycle. Yeah.

[00:09:53] Kaylee Tanner: Right. And I’m like, wait, but we have something happening throughout this whole month that actually totally does affect how I’m working out. It does affect how I should be eating. And so I really started, um,

[00:10:12] Kaylee Tanner: Kind of just diving into this different way of approaching things like fitness and things like hormone health. Because one, the doctors told me I probably wouldn’t be able to get pregnant. Because of endometriosis, they wanted to put me on birth control, they wanted me to take these meds, and I was like, absolutely not, you know, I, I, I really think that there’s something that I can do, from a more natural and holistic standpoint to heal, um, because, yeah, doctors, basically you’re on this whole cycle of laparoscopic surgery for the rest of your life, and I was like, I’m not doing that.

[00:10:52] Kaylee Tanner: So I just started paying more attention to my cycle and Cut out some things like gluten and dairy which I had no idea this inflammation had such a big impact on my hormones and my cycle. I was able to, um, heal naturally, um, and put kind of my endos, symptoms into remission and, um, was able to get pregnant naturally after six months of just Kind of doing this inner healing or, uh, lifestyle work.

[00:11:27] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah. A lot of it was stress management too. And just like cutting out stress out of my life. Uh, but, but really focusing on kind of creating a new foundation for my health. Yeah. Uh, moving forward.

[00:11:43] Jenny Swisher: I love that. And actually we have very similar stories. I was diagnosed with endometriosis as well in my twenties.

[00:11:49] Jenny Swisher: And. Um, for me, it had always been chronic migraine issues. And so I dealt with painful periods for most of my life, but the headaches were so much worse that that’s all I really focused on. But yeah. When I got to a fertility specialist clinic, he made the observation that I was taking way too many NSAIDs on my period.

[00:12:08] Jenny Swisher: And he said, yeah, a little bit more than the average woman would take. And I said, well, I just, I thought every woman had cramps and I thought it was bad for her. And when we actually dove into the. You know, how many menstrual products are you using and how much medication are you taking?

[00:12:22] Jenny Swisher: It was like, Oh, I didn’t realize that that’s not normal. And so I also had the laparoscopic surgery. It also did not help me. And I had, I had the cramps right back again. So I’ve been in your shoes and there’s, there is a deeper dive on endometriosis that I want to do at some point here on the show, where we talk about the different options that are out there for surgeries, different types of surgeries when it comes to.

[00:12:45] Jenny Swisher: You know, burning versus or cauterization versus laser versus other options out there. So I just want to make sure you understand that. But I think what you have to say and your story is so similar to mine, which is treating lifestyle, looking at like inflammatory factors like your food and even your exercise and different things.

[00:13:03] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. Lifestyle, your stressors, they really do play that large of a role. A good friend of mine, um, just had her second child and she struggled with endometriosis. It was told she would never conceive. Right. And all they really focused on was, and I say all, but like, really it is that simple because it’s a choice, right?

[00:13:23] Jenny Swisher: Removing things like gluten and dairy from your food. Um, getting proper sleep, removing those stressors, uh, not overtraining and those types of things. Yeah. So I want you to tell us more before we talk, in depth on hormones. Tell me this. Okay. So my very best friend from college owns a CrossFit gym, right?

[00:13:40] Jenny Swisher: So we banter back and forth all the time about it. And of course, when you’re into CrossFit, you’re into CrossFit, like you’re, you’re it’s a cult. It’s the whole thing. So, like I said, I’m in like the home fitness world where it’s a whole thing. So yeah, I think it’s similar in the. Um, I don’t want to say obsessive nature, but I’ll say that for lack of better terms, but just this sort of all in mentality, right?

[00:14:02] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. Work out of the day. You’ve got to do all the reps. You’ve got to put in the work. You’ve got to stress and sweat and all the things. And I know one thing that you and I talked about was how counterproductive that can be for women. So I would love to hear. Absolutely.

[00:14:15] Kaylee Tanner: Because you’ve been, you know,

[00:14:17] Jenny Swisher: coaching, a CrossFit coach, and you’ve been in those environments.

[00:14:21] Jenny Swisher: I’d love to hear your perspective on when you use that intensity.

[00:14:25] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah, so I think that CrossFit has the right foundation, but I don’t think the execution is always the best. And here is why. I think that fitness and health are two different things. I think you can be really fit and you can not be healthy.

[00:14:46] Kaylee Tanner: And I think that, you know, specifically with CrossFit, what I, in my kind of, you know, journey through, through my own health, as I was experiencing endometriosis, I realized that high intensity and cortisol and adrenaline are one of the absolute worst things for endometriosis flare ups. There is such a competitive environment in CrossFit and a lot of people You know, don’t have the self control to do what their body needs in those environments.

[00:15:28] Kaylee Tanner: And I feel like a lot of times, too, in today, like, you’ll hear people say all the time, like, listen to your body, listen to your body, listen to your body. In all reality, most people have never been taught how to listen to their body, and how to reconnect to their body, and how to… be sensitive to their body.

[00:15:52] Kaylee Tanner: And so I feel like a lot of times specifically in CrossFit culture, it’s like push, push, push, like do more heavier, you know, and, and it’s not wrong, but only, you know, what you need. So. Specifically with CrossFit, I don’t think that there is enough knowledge and education on how to train women appropriately in CrossFit and in high functional fitness.

[00:16:27] Kaylee Tanner: I think that every single gym should have a CrossFit coach who is certified in some sort of, you know, education on how We actually need to be trained differently simply because we have a vagina and you know, telling me to brace for this lift like someone’s punching me in the abs actually is counterintuitive because what it does Is it causes me to put more downward pressure on my pelvic floor, which can lead to leakage and things like that, right?

[00:17:02] Kaylee Tanner: I think CrossFit is a really good foundation, but how we execute it for females needs to be different. There needs to be more education, um, so that we can support female athletes

[00:17:15] Jenny Swisher: better. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think what you, you said something and I wrote it down here. You said like, basically you said fit and healthy aren’t necessarily the same.

[00:17:23] Jenny Swisher: They’re not one of the, I mean, I interviewed Elise Joan here on the podcast. She’s the creator of bar blend home fitness program, here recently. And she was talking about the same thing, which is when she went in to have her labs done and her baseline blood work and stuff to look at hormones, her doctor was so impressed that she could be as fit as she was and internally healthy.

[00:17:42] Jenny Swisher: Of course, she prides herself on, you know, not doing like the balls to the wall jumping and heavy lift. Yeah, she’s more low impact. But, um, and it’s not to say that we can’t do those things. It’s just like we need educated on proper form. And what’s different for women versus men. And understanding what phases of our cycle are more conducive type of training, right?

[00:18:03] Jenny Swisher: Like if we’re doing heavy lifting and plyometrics the day before our period, we’re more susceptible to injury. We’re more susceptible to doing more harm than good. So I agree with you. I think it all comes back to just educating women. I mean, you mentioned it in your story. It’s part of my story. I hear about it dozens of times a week from the women in my course that They didn’t realize how complex our hormones really are, right?

[00:18:26] Jenny Swisher: Like they didn’t, it’s education in school. We didn’t learn about the menstrual cycle. We learned about pregnancy, but we didn’t learn. The different cycle. So, and you did mention earlier, Elissa biddy’s book in the flow, and I’ll make sure that I link that up in the show notes. It’s a little hippy dippy. Um, but you’re going to learn in that book, you know, how, how infradian you really are and how your body.

[00:18:48] Jenny Swisher: Live in phases. So, okay. So you mentioned, you know, that, that you were in the world of CrossFit and, um, what, why, I guess, let’s start here. Why do you think it’s so important for female athletes, which I always like to define here on the show as a woman who trains doesn’t mean that you’re an athlete mean that you are.

[00:19:07] Jenny Swisher: A collegiate athlete just means that you are someone who trains, whether it’s in your own basement or it’s at a gym, it doesn’t matter. Um, and so what would your advice be to the female athletes now knowing what you know, what you’ve experienced? Like if you were talking to, let’s say a 25 year old female, who’s just really into whether it’s CrossFit or home workouts or whatever, what would you have to say to her?

[00:19:28] Jenny Swisher: What would you tell her to be mindful of?

[00:19:31] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah, I would first and foremost say and tell her you are your best advocate and

[00:19:51] Kaylee Tanner: like I think kind of going back to to what I said a little bit, I would teach her how to connect back to her body. Because, like I said, I don’t think a lot of people actually know truly what that means.

[00:20:11] Jenny Swisher: They don’t. Because a lot of women don’t even really realize, like, like if you say what day of your cycle are you on, most women can’t answer you.

[00:20:18] Jenny Swisher: So I agree with that.

[00:20:18] Kaylee Tanner: Right. So I think equipping women with knowledge around your cycle and to give them permission to lead. I need to be slower today because I’m in, you know, this phase of my cycle, or I need, you know, I need something different than what the workout on the board is telling me to do. I think that we are very reliant on other people to coach us that sometimes it can actually cause a disconnection from what we actually need.

[00:20:58] Kaylee Tanner: And I think equipping women. You know, I would just tell her like and equip her to be her own best advocate and coach because ultimately she’s going to know what she needs more than somebody who sees her for an hour a day, who doesn’t know the stressors of her life, who doesn’t know what time she woke up that day, who doesn’t know where she’s at in her cycle, you know, so I think really equipping her with knowledge on, and Her hormones, how to connect and giving her permission to need, I think would be my biggest, influence to her.

[00:21:40] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. I love that. I think that’s perfect. I mean, I always say you are your own best advocate, right? Like, you know, the authority in our doctors to know our body, our bodies better than we know our own bodies. Um, yeah. Yeah. And if you know, I’ve been someone who it took me until the age of, I think I was 27, maybe 29, somewhere in that 27 to 29 range before I learned of the endometriosis before I learned sort of serious hormone imbalance.

[00:22:05] Jenny Swisher: And by the way, if you’re listening to this. And you’ve been diagnosed with endo or PCOS or something like that. Just know that that’s a diagnosis based on a set of symptoms and thinking functionally, you know, you can actually start to do different types of testing and working with a functional practitioner to really get to the root of what those imbalances could be.

[00:22:24] Jenny Swisher: So it’s not just. Oh, I have this and I have to live with it, right? It’s as we’ve said before, so many different things that you can be doing and that are within your control. So stepping into that self advocacy, stepping in, saying like, okay, this doctor may not be the right answer for me. Maybe I need to find someone else, or maybe I need to go a little deeper can be, can be the ticket.

[00:22:42] Jenny Swisher: I want to make sure that we touch on this because, you know, you are focused. Particularly on helping women navigate pregnancy and postpartum fitness. So I’d love to hear about this. I’ve not experienced pregnancy. I have two daughters through adoption, so I’ve not been pregnant, but I get questions all the time about like, what’s the home program for me, or how should I be training in pregnancy?

[00:23:03] Jenny Swisher: Or what’s the best way to get back to my body, you know, after pregnancy. And of course, we’re going to set the disclaimer. You always should be working with your doctor. Don’t take this as official. But I would love to just hear your perspective based on what you’ve seen in coaching women in these, in these situations.

[00:23:18] Jenny Swisher: What do you normally see and what, how do you coach these women to get back to their optimal energy?

[00:23:23] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah, absolutely. So I’m obviously pregnancy and postpartum are two very different things, very different approaches. With pregnancy, I do enjoy strength training, so I would, you know, focus more on strength training, but there’s, you know, your body is ever changing throughout pregnancy.

[00:23:42] Kaylee Tanner: So really in that first, you know, trimester, it’s like, hey, just move three times a week, you’re going to be really tired. You know, you might, you might be a lot more tired than you normally are. And getting outside and walking for 30 minutes a day is a win. Or, you know, if you need to scale your reps back, but you’re moving, you know, three times a week, that is a big win, you know, and some, some women think, you know, Oh, I haven’t exercised before my pregnancy, so I can’t start.

[00:24:16] Kaylee Tanner: You can start, you know, like you can absolutely start under the guidance of someone who’s a professional and knows what they’re doing. But I think really just the most important thing for pregnancy is finding something that you enjoy doing that’s going to bring you life. You know, whether that is walking, whether that is lifting weights, whether that is riding a bike, you know, find something that is going to bring you life and do it three times a week and give yourself grace.

[00:24:49] Kaylee Tanner: It is this part of your life is not about PRs. It’s not even, it’s not about improving, it’s just about moving and staying healthy. Yeah.

[00:25:01] Jenny Swisher: Yeah, I love that. I, my, my listeners know that I’ve recently been struggling again with migraines and I’m calling. The perimenopause era for me, I guess, migraines with vertigo and stuff like that.

[00:25:12] Jenny Swisher: And it’s funny because my communities that I run on social media have all been asking me, like, well, are you still lifting? Are you still, you know, are you still doing hit? Are you still riding your bike? And I’m like, um, actually for the last eight weeks, I think I’ve done five workouts that would be considered.

[00:25:28] Jenny Swisher: Strength workouts and the rest of the time just focus on moving, like yoga, gentle movement. Um, going yesterday was a 45 minute walk, just keeping my body moving and active because I realize and recognize that my body isn’t, it’s obviously sending me a signal that something is off. And so why would I push it?

[00:25:48] Jenny Swisher: Even more. Right. But, but I see it all the time. And women, I had a woman who a client who just had lower back surgery, some sort of very serious spinal surgery. And she’s so here to get back to things. I’m like, listen, your body is sending you a signal. It is in a state of healing and you’re not helping the healing by pushing yourself.

[00:26:08] Jenny Swisher: You’re not, you know, and it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s so easy. I think as women to get into that, like all or nothing mentality of just feeling like we have to push, push, push when in reality. serving ourselves so much better with the rest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you train? How do you train right now? Like what does your week look like week to week?

[00:26:26] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah. Yeah. Right now I do CrossFit three times a week. I go to the gym. Uh, in the morning before my babies are awake. You know, and it’s, uh, I, I definitely, so I’m like, so weird to say, but I’m so excited because I just got my period back after my second, which I’m like, yes, like I can actually get back in sync and I can do some things to really, uh, you know, connect back with my body.

[00:26:56] Kaylee Tanner: And so, uh, I’ve been, um, cycle syncing with my workouts for the last month, which has been awesome. You know, I’ll look at a workout, you know, just the other day, there was a workout where we had high, um, you know, boxed up ups with a light weight and, um, you know, high intensity and I was about to start my period, so I was like, you know what, I’m gonna bring down that height a little bit, I’m gonna go heavier and I’m gonna go really slow because I’m not here right now to Do anything high intensity.

[00:27:32] Kaylee Tanner: Um, so I have been yeah doing that crossfit three times a week cycle syncing a little bit more than I was before Being mindful of things like the fact that I’m still breastfeeding and I still have relaxin in my body. So actually, when there’s a 200, 400, 600 meter run on the board, I don’t do it.

[00:27:52] Kaylee Tanner: Because I still have, you know, a really relaxed pelvic floor and it hurts when I run. Um, so just being mindful, you know, like I said, kind of of hormones and um, The reality of postpartum things going on.

[00:28:06] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. So for you to start the podcast saying, you know, that you had these painful periods and endometriosis, and then to say, yes, I finally have my period back.

[00:28:13] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. Does something to Yeah. To the, to the degree that like obviously you’ve been able to, to get yourself Yeah. Healthy place and I love that your cycle sinking. Um, are you familiar with like Dr. Stacey Sims and, and her approaches with that? Yeah.

[00:28:26] Kaylee Tanner: Yes. I read, I started reading Roar. I haven’t finished it, but I follow Stacey Sims.

[00:28:33] Kaylee Tanner: She’s amazing. So familiar with

[00:28:36] Jenny Swisher: her. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I really do believe that it’s the future. I mean, I did a podcast, a solo round episode that I’ll link up here in the show notes, um, all about why I think the fitness industry needs to follow suit with women. Yeah. In cycle syncing, obviously she works with the USA women’s soccer team and obviously they’ve been successful in this, in this approach, but I think it’s up and coming.

[00:28:57] Jenny Swisher: I think it’s a matter of, you know, changing, changing the narrative. Like once you know better, you can do better. So it’s like, okay, well, why are we still training like a man? Why are we still following diet regimens that are for a man? You know, like let’s, let’s start to focus on us. And I hope that people listening don’t take away from this that like.

[00:29:14] Jenny Swisher: Women should only be doing light activity, like that’s not what we’re trying. Actually, if you read Stacy’s books, if you dive into her material, you’ll see where plyometric training is good for brain health. You know, heavy lifting, what you were talking about, like the heavy and slow, like the low rep counts.

[00:29:29] Jenny Swisher: Hot, heavy weights like this is really good for combating muscle atrophy, especially as women enter perimenopause and menopause. There’s a whole world of information out there now about like protein intake for women and why that’s so important. And I just think that we’re starting to flip the narrative on diet and we’re starting to say, Hey, no, actually, instead of cutting your calories, let’s make sure you’re eating enough.

[00:29:50] Jenny Swisher: And instead of. Doing all the cardio. Let’s make sure your strength training and you’re living in zones. Right. So I, I like little shifts that are happening because I think it’s, it’s teaching women that there is a better way. There’s a smarter way to get their physiology as opposed to against it. Yeah. I love it.

[00:30:07] Jenny Swisher: Yeah. So I would love for you to tell people, you know, where can they find you? Where are you living on? Yeah. Yeah. What, you know, how can they get in contact with you? I mean, yeah. All the things tell us.

[00:30:17] Kaylee Tanner: Yeah. So like I kind of said before, I love, you know, Let me, backtrack just really slightly. When I was pregnant with my first, I completely disengaged from social media.

[00:30:32] Kaylee Tanner: I just wanted to be in a really good mental space for pregnancy and delivery. So I actually totally deleted all my social and I didn’t pause it. I deleted it, you know? Um, but before that, it was really important to me for, for me to share my story with my audience. And I really, you know, I really do believe that, um, a lot of times, you know, I think that our pain is really supposed to be turned into purpose, and it’s insane how, by sharing my story, how many women started coming to me saying, hey, I think this is something that I’m struggling with, too.

[00:31:17] Kaylee Tanner: Like, I think I have endometriosis. Can you actually help me figure out ways to work out? And, um, you know, my job now is literally helping people share their stories and make an impact. That’s what I literally get to help people do every single day. So if that’s something that you, you know, you have a passion on your heart, whether it’s a passion because it’s something you love, or it’s a passion because it’s something that You’ve experienced through pain, but you really do want to make an impact on people’s lives I would love to talk to you about it.

[00:31:52] Kaylee Tanner: I would love to hear your dreams So you can schedule a free brand strategy call with me at free brand call. com Like I said, I would love to learn and, and just kind of hear your story and what, um, you know, the ways you want to make an impact. You can find me on Instagram on Kaylee Lynn Tanner.

[00:32:13] Jenny Swisher: Perfect. Well, we’ll make sure that we link that up in the show notes. I didn’t, I think I briefly mentioned it, but I’ll mention it here too. I’ve been working with brain builders group, not Kaylee specifically, um, brain builders group now for almost 3 years.

[00:32:25] Jenny Swisher: And it’s been game changing for me. They are the reason behind the podcast. Really? They were the ones who encouraged. I kept saying, well, who wants to hear from me? You know, I’m not a doctor and they were like, everyone needs to hear from you. Awesome working with them. And I know I have sync certified coaches listening to this health coaches who listened to this.

[00:32:42] Jenny Swisher: And if you’re, if you’re ditching your, your world down into hormone health or whatever, you’re niching into brand builders is a great option for that. So we will put links up in the show notes for brand builders, for the free call for Kaylee’s Instagram, in case you have questions, but thank you so much for taking time to just share your story.

[00:32:58] Jenny Swisher: To share your perspective and to offer light to my audience.

[00:33:01] Kaylee Tanner: Thanks, Jenny. Thank you for your voice and for your, you know, for what you’re doing, your platform. We’re, you know, there’s so many women who need you and just thank you for paving the way for so many of us.

[00:33:14] Jenny Swisher: Thank you so much, my friend. Okay, well, we’ll talk soon.

[00:33:16] Jenny Swisher: Until next time, you guys. Bye bye.